Rethinking our place in nature: Ocean Wings episode with Rowan Daugherty



Aloha Reader,

During the briefing before we take guests to meet manta rays in the ocean, we'd often explain how the manta rays aren't there to perform for us - they're just living their lives, and we're lucky to witness it. Last April during that briefing, one of the guests lit up: "I just wrote a paper about this."

The guest was called Rowan Daugherty, and her paper "Putting the Phone Down: the Negative Impact of Technology on Nature". It explores something I've been trying to communicate for years: the disconnect that happens when we expect nature to give us an "experience" instead of just being present for what unfolds.

In this week's episode, Rowan and I dive deeper into that conversation. She's an undergraduate honors student studying political science and environmental ethics, and her perspective on how we relate to the natural world is refreshingly grounded.

We talk about topics like how technology creates barriers to real connection and the difference between egocentric thinking (putting ourselves at the center) and ecocentric thinking (recognizing we're part of something larger).

It's a conversation about letting go of expectations, experiencing nature on its own terms, and what Aldo Leopold's "land ethic" teaches us about our relationship with the world around us.

If you've ever caught yourself reaching for your phone instead of just being present in a beautiful moment, this conversation will resonate.

Warmest Aloha,

Martina

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Martina Wing

Manta rays are beautiful and majestic animals that have a life-changing effect on people who meet them. I want to protect them so humans can experience their transformational power for generations to come! My goal is to inspire people so they take action to protect the mantas' ecosystem and oceans all around the world.

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